I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! We met at Bowes Road School Tuesday evenings and learnt first aid, home nursing, drill, lots of things. Sylvia. Do you remember the Toy shop opposite too? Does anyone have a photo of prewar broomhill park with its original railings? Definitely around 1958 when Bezazz opened: frothy coffee in tiny glass cups. 020 8881 7304. It was nice to hear your memories. On the other side of the road there was a record shop called Opus I used to spend a lot of time in there in the 70s, you could also buy records from John Menzies a few doors down. Since opening its doors in 2014, FUFU (meaning lucky) has established itself as one of . Great times, scooters, mods, good jukebox, used to go upstairs. Other teachers were Miss Sweeny who would let you ring the bell if it was your birthday, Miss Calcott (horrible) and Mrs Dark. I had some really good teachers and friends I missed a lot when we moved. Dordrecht, Netherlands. It was a super meeting place for a great crowd, all feeling very sophisticated drinking coffee from glass cups. Most of the sites stayed flattened for many years afterwards some right up to the 60s. I then became a (successful) travel writer and ended up as a journalist for an american newsletter. What a job to have, stuck up there in this rather dark shop every day!! I lived at no46 Conway road, My mother knew your parents. Ray in Cornywall. Gerry. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. us failed musicians worship for evermore.no rush puttin the latest grandaughter Reenie to bed..ope she gets on the bandstand soon shes got the lungs for it and we may need er thirty shillins a week to pay orf the mortgage.Annyway (am I keepin you up?) I was born at 7 Oakthorpe Rd, PG in 1944 and moved to East Anglia in 1971. I have spoken to a friend of mine who was born in the mid 30s & has lived near Hedge Lane most of her life but she doesnt remember a bomb dropping at the top of Hedge Lane. The ford zepher was back in the 60s it would have been the 70s in PG. Now retired living in Strawberry Hill. These chairs had the smallest seats Ive ever seen and I often thought it was a miracle that my Gran ever managed to perch on one. Where are you now and all the others from these years? Hospital. I was at Winchmore when Mr Shepherd was there as Head. I have found on the website for Enfield Sports that the swimming pool was closed in 1979 it was probably too old to justify renovation and the annual maintenance costs pity, we had most enjoyable swimming afternoons there. But we used to dangle fishing lines from the river bridge in Hazelwood lane in an effort to catch something. Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. Miss Bellefontaine was head of junior school. I lived in Tottenham rd during the war and remember being wrapped in a tartan rug and carried out side by my dad who was an air raid warden to see. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. The garage was Saul and Slatter Ltd. AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Dark..my teecher at Winchmore ill and Southgate County Grammer, Fox Lane, do you remember? Its great. Lots of great memories. It may be that your memory of PG is slightly off but, as I recall, it was the Home & Colonial grocer shop and it was on the left hand side as one went north towards Winchmore Hill; it was on that side shortly before Devonshire Road, the Fox Inn and Fox Lane, possibly about where the Red Cross shop has been in recent times. Remember the Rag and Bone man had a horse and cart and my mum would send me out with a shovel and bucket to scoop up any droppings the horse might leave. you could add doms cafe where you had a great breakfast there. and had a Saturday job in Grouts!!!! Palmers Green, Greater London Old Photos, Historic Maps, Local History Books and Memories of Palmers Green Frith photos prompt happy memories of our personal history, so enjoy this trip down memory lane with our old photos, historic maps, local history books, and memories of Palmers Green. We moved to Crawley in about 1955 or 6. Hi David, yes, I remember Keiths Cars being there for many years &, as Richard S says, it is now a tyre dealer and I remember Pitmans just opp. I worked at burtons at the triangle in the 60s until at closed inthe 70s some very happy memeries of those times. What about the old corn merchant on the corner of Osborne Road and the tiny sweetshop nextdoor! The manager in the 60s was Keith Small, very nice man who had a daughter Jacqueline. Was sad to see it go. Once purchased the items would be carefully wrapped in brown paper and tied with string before the exciting moment (for me anyway) of paying. My mum used to take me to the clinic in Broomfield House and I can still taste the orange juice they gave us,fantastic! Mon May 03 Wishin you Happy New Year! . I recall watching with amazement whilst waiting as the barber lit a candle and singed older mens hair, hoping desperately he would not set light to m,e when my turn came! Later, they raised us four kids in York Road. Yes, remember it as Roberts. I wasnt as lucky as you & never actually ate at Doms though, but if I was very good my treat was the ice cream and I still have a sweet tooth to this day. In the late 60s, early 70s a small ladies shop appeared near Burtons. I suppose the range of shops in every High St has changed so much these days because almost everyone has a car, fridges and freezers and generally shop only once or twice a week, whereas when I was young, people shopped every day and had to walk to the shops for fresh produce. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar. Like me, she does remember the car dealer being there though. Once upon a time in Palmers Green, Southgate - a glimpse into the past, Fond memories of Winchmore Hill Alan Dumayne Enfield Matthew Eccleston Enfield at War 1939-1945 Geoffrey Gillam, Enfield Archaelogical Society Theatres, Music Halls and Cinemas in the London Borough of Enfield Geoffrey Gillam, Enfield Archaelogical Society Where do you live now? Yes Simon there are on this site. Palmers Green N13, is lovely, a Edwardian area with plenty of independence shops, the parade of shops has beautiful building above them a lovely 1930s style park, a railway station journey to the countryside and Moorgate and properties are still very affordable. We called them Labour Exchanges and people were made to queue outside. Making own fun! Regards David. An abundance of dress shops and Evans and DaviesAn unforgetable shop that sold everything. No seats until the Union got a concession. Since 1970 Ive lived in the Netherlands and from 1980 am the fortunate owner of a mint condition, unrestored 1963 Jaguar Mk 2, 3.4 litre. Did I swap it or sell at a profit. Rosalie lived in Palmers Green during the war, and provided this memory of her wartime life as part of the BBC project the WW2 Peoples War, an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. Think pool is still there. Im sure Fred Rain lived in the Larches. They could be dropped down to serve the goods. Seems a long time ago now! Truly some of the best times of my life in Palmers Green. (with Pa as escort we did go to the Queens later on seein Cat an the Canary (Bob Hope, avent bin able to sleep in a bed with edboard since and Pinnochionightmares cos o the Whale swallerin (Jonah?) In fact on A10 between Lister Gardens and Ostliffe Rd, there is still a gap in the terrace where 2 houses were hit during the war. Yes Bezazz coffee bar, went their most nights as well around 1964 onwards coffee, egg & chips, juke box, pinball machine, 3/6d last all night!..some faces Denis Day, Mick Stanton, Mick Smith, Dave Todd, Michael joannou, Michael De Bear,Wendy & Susan Smale, Laureen Blackwell, the cast goes on! I would supply Aubrey with items from the palmers green branch by which time I think you where becoming involved in running the shop KELVIN PHOTOS Dad livin then in Islinton/ighbury played piano, accordian, dubblebase, all sizes of saxophones and clarinet as reserve needed in the West End otels in Lunnon includin the Savoy otel (10/6d an evenin)(after the War e was to reminisce when taken to lunch in Savoy Grill by conglommerats an councils gaspin to get old of Shells munny) as assistant investment manager (16th Floor) for Shell Oil (millions to spend) and for No.1 Balloon Barrage Dance Band (later the Squadronnaires an Skyrockitts) that is when e wasn,t tendin is personal barrage balloon in East am 1939. Just found this: The next occupant of the premises was Jays Furnishing Stores, a hire-purchase furniture store first listed in Wards 1911 directory. I also got a passion for steam trains watching them working the sidings at the station. Doc Meldrum had a most interesting signature it resembled WWWWWWWW I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? Happy memories of Greenwood Gate Tennis Club in the Rec too, circa 1959 1963. Call now on: 0203 095 2916; get a quote for. I lived in Conway Road all of my early life from 1944 to 1968 when I emigrated to Canada. Other fine dinin hexperiences in dear ol Palmers Greengeograffical-wise goin east. Its a hazy memory but I do remember buying a basket for my school books (they were the in thing then) It was a glorious place to live as a child. Everett was the first black lad in our school in the mid 50s. Take butchers, for instance, within 10-15 min walk of me (Chequers Way, where Metal Box Co was), there were 5/6 butchers that I remember walking to with my Mum. Regards, Brian Watling. although i dont remember it having a cafe, maybe it did before my time though. I think your Father was there too. Biking from The Larches to Holborn Kingsway, clock in at 8 am, carry bike up 4 flights of stairs, no smoking allowed, no sitting down cept lunch time at the frame. Fantastic David, thats amazing. Dads brother, Uncle Sid Rann lived at no 22. Winchester) and was amazed when on a route march or exercise and dreading the eventas soon as we turned the corner from barracks, everyone from Sergeant to PTI had to fall out for a smoke. Annyway.back to on the North side an them basketsI remembers a cafe at this location. I dont recall the cart. Sylvia Gambin. Recall the police fishing bodies out of the water occasionally suicides. PS. There were something over 50 people killed as the dance had just ended and many had left the dance hall to get buses in Green Lanes. I worked in Tesco in Palmers Green when I was 16 years old in roughly 1990. for Joe Hart at Tottenham Muni and Manor ouse Finsbury P, Dick Davis an Billy Cotton etc. Otherwise it was as you describe with the coffee grinding machine in the window and the aroma pervading Green Lanes. Sue Beard, who runs the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website, has discovered a 15-minute film about Grouts , the former Palmers Green emporium of tea towels, socks, knickers and corsetry that brought a glimpse of pre-WW2 (and even pre-WW1) shopping into the 21st Century. I do not expect a comment, as this was many years ago. Mrs Gibbs, Mr Roper, Mrs Langford(Nee Anstey) Mrs Potts, Mrs Buchannon, Mr Hollingsworth, Mr Streatham,Mrs Chapman, Mrs Rupert, Also the caretaker who was aptly named Mr Moody. People were lying everywhere because a bus had been crushed, and there had been a dance going on in the hall above Pitmans College which had been bombed. Dear Ken. . Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. Annyway I have told already of my Mum on this lovely chat previous, being part-time life saver and attendant at THE POOL, she could not swim a stroke. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. When I read Jenny H & Martins comments about Doctors, it reminded me of the first one I had. 8.1K members Join group About Discussion About this group This worldwide local history, nostalgia and memories group has been active since 2012, we have thousands of photos in our albums and many memories and photos being posted daily. My parents told me that they, as newly weds, lived in a flat over the Dolls Hospital in Palmers Green. memories those were the best days. I remember J&As when the windows were boarded, just a square foot to stare in. Hello Brian, Im so glad you remember Dr Baxter. I lived in Tottenhall Road until 1955 when we moved to Winchmore Hill but I remember the home made guys outside the shops on Green Lanes. I used to by comics from him in the 60s. The following year came a new head Mrs Cannon in 1968 I went up into the juniors and the head there was Mrs Gibbs . Hello Christine, I do remember the china and glass shop which I went in with my Mother to buy any special gifts for people. . Wow Thanks Richard awesome now I win the bet with my brothers!! Winchmore School was my school from 1955-1960. Will email direct Miss Gibbs. Residing in Florida but will be returning to the UK some time early next year and looking forward to checking out the old haunts. Happy days playing in the yard out back. He was simply the best jiver (having been a professional dancer in his younger days). The only place Ive ever found an equivalent to Doms, is in the home of ice cream, Italy and thats a long way to go for a cornet!!! Think the shop with the coffe grinder and gorgeous smell was called Rawlins.went to school with the daughter of the owners. David. Nowadays there arent park keepers any more and some people get up to all sorts in local parks making some of them no-go areas in some cases. yes recall them well. I assume there was no ammunition in the house, though! Lovely caf. Richard Franklin. you may remember I also had a retail shop in Muswell hill, = 253 Muswell hiil broadway. Was the camera shop you are thinking off Camera Craft just beyond the top of Osborne Road and some way short of Hedge Lane? I have so many memories of Palmers Green in the late 1940s [through to the present day] that I could be here all night, tomorrow and for the next month typing them up. Apparitions were seen and there was some poltergeist activity mainly at night with loud bangs downstairs. Remember the old peoples home burning down in 1966.Buses were diverted down Windsor Road. On the corner of Aldermans Hill and Devonshire Gdns was the United Dairies shop. My mum had a job doing tailoring above Burtons and in school holidays I had to go in with her some days. I think that this garage was called Saul & Slatters a John Slatter who worked there, married my cousin Margaret Cantwell in 1962. Hi John ! Ooooh now youve switched a bright light on.The Pilgrims Rest what a gem. Pennie, I can tell you have great taste! Ive lived here all my life (born 45) but dont remember that or Keiths being a bomb site. In the meantime, here are some memories of Palmers Greenfrom other sites. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. Veluchis barber shop near the Triangle- only one and three pence for a mod style hair cut. Life is very different now and this great website has brought back lots of lovely memories for me. Janes & Adams, Wendy. By the way do you have a brother Brian, married to Rosemarie? Thanks Richard for the update on Vic, knew him from his window cleaning business in P.Green, cups of tea in Doms cafe & long discussions on where to go for the next holiday in Spain. Remembered the lift in Evans & Davies, Grouts, Courts, Bishops (supermarket), Stephen Gracey estate agents, A Legg & Sons hardware (now Occasional Half pub), Bakers Oven, Tesco (supermarket and a smal local one between Kelvin and Melbourne Aves). I bought my red Mk III Ford Cortina from Keiths in the mid-late 1970s and my maye, Dave Todd bought a bright yellow one from the same dealer as I recall. Thanks He was very stern and terrified me! Annyway I was bursting with fitness with all this pedalling on the Rudge when my time came to do National Service (Rifle Brigade. I really love this website for bringing back all those memories stored in the depths of our brains. Annyway, do you ave a clue as to whether the proprietor ,Mr. Pogson was related to THE Mr. E. O. Pogson. My brothers and I were trying to remember where the furniture store Jays was located in Palmers Green, can someone help. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, Lived in New River Crescent during 60s and 70s. Can you remember the name of it? You even remember the prices! Saturday morning pictures at the Palladium was always good fun watching Roy Rogers, Flash Gordon etc. Ill call you a Fcab etc. CameraCraft shop. Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? What about the lovely pantos at the Intimate theatre. I also seem to remember that the path to Dr Baxters surgery had a pergola over it which used to be covered with blossom (? In 1961 the company was acquired by Car Mart Sales Ltd, but retained its name. Some good times at Arnos. Well the years are rolling back! Responding to the notes on Barrowell Green Swimming pool, I was born in Southgate and lived at 6 Tintern Gardens from 1936 56, and attended Southgate County Grammar School. Can somebody help with this? Michael do you remember Mr Forkin at St. Michaels school Tottenhall Rd.arranging a boxing ring with proper gloves in the playground afternoon break with you & Everett Houghton as contenders? Around the mid 60s lovely to see we all grew up in such a cherished place. Doms! So back ome goin West? also the Unigate milkman who had an electric cart and kept saying oh brother. An elderly man worked there and a younger surely man. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? Intimate Memories: The History of the Intimate Theatre, Palmers Green Paperback - 30 Nov. 2006 by Geoff Bowden (Author) 4 ratings See all formats and editions Paperback 50.00 3 Used from 49.90 1 Collectible from 22.99 Print length 213 pages Language English Publisher Badger Press Publication date 30 Nov. 2006 ISBN-10 0952607638 ISBN-13 A man who was the spitting image of Reginald Varney (On the Buses fame} served behind the counter. The owner, Bruno & his wife lived opposite in Green Lanes 3rd floor above Phiipes: Ladies Hairdressers. Which barbers do you mean? Do you remember one opposite Arnos Grove tube in early 80s? Then, of course, the great Grouts with its artistic window displays! As I hadnt had any response to my original comment I was beginning to think I had imagined him. I also remember Miss Bellfountain (Spelling) she was head of the Junior before Miss Gibbs. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. "One night in March 1941, the Dance Hall (held in the Princes Hall above Pitman's College) in Green Lanes, Palmers Green was bombed. Hi Jenny, I took a photo of these homes about this time (1966) before the fire for a school photo project on old buildings I believe they were called Skinners Alms Houses. Please?? I remember my Nan going I to Tescos on Green Lane and used to run around Brookfield park and go into the burned down museum with the bees and the art work. Mr. Pratt was very critical of my dovetail jointing but roped me in scenery building for the annual Gilbert and Sullivan Operas as did Miss Green, Art, for paintings. I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. Inside, the shop was very long with a back section which you rarely ventured into, mainly sheets and towels and net curtaining, Down the middle of the shop, arranged on chairs were tatty cardboard boxes holding items like socks, childs vests etcspecial offers, I guess! Everytime I see Shirley Bassey, I remember Tom; for he gave 2 tickets to my friend Chris West, who worked in Woolworths (me at Evans & Davies, at 16 years of age) for the London Palladium. Remember Martins the newsagents- corner of Green Lanes and Hedge Lane. Hi Gerry, I,m not sure but you could well be right as I do not remember any other type of restaurant there, Regards Brian. Then in to tea and rock cakes and bashing out Boogie on Grans cherished piano. Joy's memories of Palmers Green My family, all three of us, moved to Palmers Green from Haringay in 1936 when I was five years old. Church under rev. dont make us laugh its football or economics ere. N21. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. Remember Reg Hart who has posted here- he was interested in meteorology back then. It is used by the Broomfield Model Boat Club. Hello Jenny, This was back in the early 60s. Hi Gerry, Im nearly retired and living in Australia, you may remember my father Aubrey Todd who ran Kelvin Photos. I will try & search the attic for the pic & copy & send it. Also why did they demolish whatever was there before? Lovely shops, great parks such a pretty place. Does anyone happen to know? Janes & Adams was my favourite shop in Palmers Green. I owned a Maicoletta scooter in those days which out- paced the Vespas and Lambrettas of those days. David Way of Winchmore Hill Broadway? Then for a short while it was a Menswear shop that sold high end suits, shoes etc. Daughter of Uncle Sid Rann (Imperial Father of the Chapel. I think it was late 50s . Intended for professional and scholarly audience. (appy Famiily memories agin, eh? and thank you for posting. Lived in Melville Gardens and Grenoble Gardens. Please help! Dear (if I may say so having lived in The Larches since 1937) Reg. Sylvia. The ice cream was served from a sliding glass hatch facing the street, so you didnt have to go inside if an ice cream was all you wanted, in the summer the servery was always open otherwise a light tap on the glass and brother or sister would serve you with beautiful soft ice cream in a cone and a smile all for threepence. Is it still haunted? All had presentsmine was miniature guitarwere you at that party? Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. Loved it there in palmer s green even earlier where l myself grew up too. Hello Stephen..thanks for your promptin memorriesjust south of your late employer street-wise in them days on the corner of edge Lane was alf a shop where I ad to take mas dry cleanins, come snow or shineannyway Dad ad to ave is dickies starched weekly ,cos he was appearin (come snow or shine) on Friday nights at the Manor ouse Turnpike Lane or Tottnam Muniplayin sax(s) clarinet, piano, accordian, dubble base etc for the fashionable dancers in them days. If my memory is correct that represented .W.W. . I seem to recall that it was situated in Princes Avenue on the right, a short distance from Green Lanes. Recall Mrs Potts and Mrs Langford and Miss Buchanon (whom I disliked nasty old bat). . Ho for the old days, Mike, (have you still got the Roller!?) Annyway after ostilities e also gigged (very fashionable nowadays, eh?) Further down , a few doors from the Fox was a confectioner called J.Vercoe. The smell really made me sick. The bombs which fell in Green Lanes/Princes Avenue referred to earlier were caused because one of our anti-aircraft guns which were mounted on the railway line shot off the back of a plane carrying bombs to drop on London and the whole stick fell there. Annyway she, (my Ma) also directed me to buy my first suit from them (powder blue with just a touch o pink pin stripes) for my first day to work in 1950. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. You done a bit of boxing? Barrowell Green pool was always on the cards in the summer! Baptist Dear Ray, If your Dad was Eric Rann, then he was my Great Uncle brother to my Granddad Syd, who also lived at The Larches. The money offered was flushed along and up to the cashier in the small glass fronted cash office, high up. Patricia loved the picturesbut for me the sing along organ player at Capitol Winchmor ill.. why did we did disagree occasion like.ladies may comment, no rush. We were spoilt for choice for cinemas at that time with the 2 in Palmers Green, Southgate, Regal at Edmonton, Enfield and Bowes Road and they all had a different atmosphere. Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. The whizzing of the overhead cash canisters as they zinged above to the cashier fantastic system. watts north Miss? Sit down Raymond! He retired in about 1956 when I was 11 and the house was demolished after that and the land must have been sold to a developer who built the maisonettes. I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. 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