Eleanor is the daughter ofConstance (York) le Despencer LG[confident] Once you go even further back, a few thousand years or so, the genetics professor says there are even bigger patterns of common ancestry, not just within Britain, but shared between people living in different countries and continents. John is the son ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident] William is the son ofRichard Nance[confident] Beatrix is the daughter of Archibald Campbell of Torrie [unknown confidence] Thomas is the son ofThomas Southworth II[unknownconfidence] 15. Patrick is the son of James McKie [unknown confidence] 9. This list currently is 70 individuals representing 55 different families. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England. 20. Elizabeth is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[unknownconfidence] 11. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Savage [unknown confidence] male line descendants of Edward III via John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (17441803) are U152 xL2,Z36,Z56,M126,M160,Z192. 16. 7. 9. Rather than separate trees, she says family links become like interwoven thickets. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident]. Less than a year later on Webdescendants ancestors Four or more generations of descendants of Edward IV of England (1442-1483) if they are properly linked: 1. (Baltimore, 1999), Abell, Robert, of Weymouth & Rehoboth, MA, Allin, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, MA, Baldwin, Elizabeth (Alsop), of Milford, CT, Bolles, Joseph, of Winter Harbor & Wells, ME, Browne, Nathaniel, of Hartford & Middletown, CT, & Springfield, MA, Bruen, Obadiah, of Marshfield & Gloucester, MA, & New London, CT, Bulkeley, Grace (Chetwode), of Concord, MA, Burrough, Nathaniel, of Calvert Co., MD, & Roxbury, MA, Chauncy, [Rev.] Susannah is the daughter ofMichael Woods II[unknownconfidence] This is perfectly normal. Neil D. Thompson. 11. WebEdward, the Black Prince (15 June 1330 8 June 1376), Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Wales. Maud is the daughter of Thomas Clifford [confident] WebGeorge Washington (descendant of Edward III of England) Thomas Jefferson (descendant of Edward III of England) James Madison (descendant of Edward I of England) James Monroe (descendant of Edward III of England) Im also desended from my great grandfather King John I of magna carta infamy. 3. Dan is the son ofDaniel C. Joslin[confident] However, the prob. Edmund is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. Dave is the son of Myrna Marie Rigg Hannah is the daughter of Jane (Reed) Niles - this is the immigrant, and she is surely a weak link in the chain; the profile for her alleged father seems to have conflated/confused several people I'm related through, 1. The idea of royalty is wrapped in ideas of being special and apart - but Prof King says the genetic reality is that we're all the product of centuries of mixing and merging, migration, social rises and falls, interrelated in many ways. Patrick is the son ofPatrick James McKie[unknownconfidence] Probably 11 and 12 are not connected, it's odd Catherine and Ian poppedover to Argyllto have their da. Duncan M'Kie-his son was born in Bute but he was born in Minnigaff "Kirkcudbrightshire", which is a historic part of Galloway, far away from Bute. 13. This corrects the line originally posted. John is the son of Richard Peck WebEdwards last son by Philippa, Thomas, was born at Woodstock on 7 January 1355. Gagn and Laurent Kokanosky fail to provide any proof besides Francoissaying it.Medieval Lands has a great explanation as to why the connection is suspicious and unsubstantiated. Only some of these are from New England and several lines may only include a few surviving descendants. 2. Homer is the son of Henry Anderson Dickinson [confident] Nathaniel is the son of Elizabeth (Savage) White [unknown confidence] Elizabeth MORTIMER =1 Henry PERCY, Lord Percy ("Hotspur"). Join Geni to explore your genealogy and family history in the World's Largest Family Tree. 13. 8. Abraham is the son ofJohn Fitz III[unknownconfidence] Instead of entering these manually you can click a "Relationship to Me" link from a profile pull-down menu or a Relationship Finder icon on your Watchlist, a Trusted List, etc. Hawte Wyatt is on the list, so yes it works as a proven line from him on up to EIII. Lora and Edward III are third cousins 21 times removed. He goes all the way back through Edward I to William the Conqueror. 3. The lineage was discovered through Rev. 21. 16. Unfortunately countless times in the past people would go from embellishing their family to outright publishing connections that were fantasy. Cecilia is the daughter of Joan (Strangeways) Berkeley [unknown confidence] Prof King, a presenter on BBC Two's DNA Family Secrets, says that it's often not understood how much family trees are likely to overlap when you go back so many generations. "I don't get my identity by thinking that back in 1630 there was a guy called Thomas Churchill who's my ancestor. Frances Deighton is the gateway ancestor. 10 & 11 are completely unsourced, and I'd argue you need better sources for all 5 people. 12. He has an extensive write-up by Anderson in the Great Migration Series. But there has to be a better way! And if someone has ancestry in Britain going back to the Middle Ages, Prof King says it's actually more likely than not they will be related to a branch of one of the royals. 12. 12. Joan is the daughter of John Beaufort KG [unknown confidence] 12. Elizabeth is the daughter of Hannah (Niles) Mott Nicholas is the son of Martha (Bliss) Ide [unknown confidence] The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Their relationship caused a constitutional crisis that ultimately led to Edwards abdication. Louise Patten Baker (1877-1967) 2. Andrew it will take me forever to prove or disprove connections to any Royalty. Edward is the son ofHawte Wyatt[confident] She married (1) by license George Popham (15501608) was a pioneering colonist from Maine, born in the southwestern regions of England. John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [unknown confidence] I have not looked into this until I saw the post, so not surprising I do not recognize any names. The final edition includes a total of 688 immigrants of Royal or noble descent. 3. Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] Patrick is the son of Andrew Agnew [unknown confidence] I started a new G2G topic for the Southworths. Benjamin is the son ofJohn Absalom Knox[unknownconfidence] John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. Yes Kirk he indeed was ;) I added the source for themarriage (image + link to the archive + transcript (also in English) to Agnes Carpenters profile now as well. 10. 9. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. Alice is the daughter ofAnne Harris[unknownconfidence] Thomas is the son of Havisia (Neville) Heslarton 16. 9. THOMAS1 SHEPARD, born at Towcester, Northamptonshire, England, 5 Nov. 1605, died at Cambridge, Mass., 25 Aug. 1649; married in England, in 1632, (1) Margaret Touteville (i.e., Stouteville, Samuel Cole (3) Boston 16 October 1660 Ann (Mansfield) Keayne, widow; born about 1596-7 (aged about 21 on 17 June 1617 and aged 38 years when she came in the Defense in 1635. By the time you go back more than 20 generations or so, based on the average reproduction rate, everyone will have millions of ancestors. Daniel is the son of Iver McKay [uncertain] https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofess13metc#page/59/, There's also said to be a Percy pedigree by Vincent the herald which credits Thomas Percy and Eleanor Harbottle with 3 daughters. The most significant would be if John of Gaunt were not the son of Edward III which enemies suggested in his Elizabeth is the daughter ofHumphrey (Tuchet) Audley[unknownconfidence] Welcome to Geni, home of the world's largest family tree. Elizabeth is the daughter of Hannah (Lake) Gallup - she immigrated Samuel Adam (McKay) McCoyWhy did his surname spelling change? John is the son of Joan Janet Stewart [unknown confidence], 14. But it means that on any street or crowded bus there could be an unwitting relation of this medieval monarch. Has anyone verified this? I've been wondering about this line for a long time. Henry is the son ofHenry Percy[confident] Unfortunately that is also the connection (Francois to supposed father Robert) that establishes her gateway ancestor status. George is the son ofAgnes (Stewart) Maxwell[unknownconfidence] 15. Joan is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) Stewart[unknownconfidence] I'll deal with John (he needs a PPP protection); Captain Thomas is all yours. This one may be a very good line to followup on. Joan is the daughter ofThomas Percy[unknownconfidence] 9. Please help. 16. Thomas lost his parents who had a son Thomas who was not born in Cheshire, married someone else and never emigrated. 11. 8. James is the son ofKatherine Agnew[unknownconfidence] As my gateway to Plantagenet-70 comes thru Anne Couvent. and heiress named Janet who m. (1) Lachlan Mackintosh of Dunachtan and (2) James Ogilvy of Cardell, with her lands being discharged to her half-brother Sir Robert of Glen (not in WT). 6. John is the son of John (Savage) of Rocksavage 1st Bt. A fix on her age would help. 11. 20. 11. 18. is that William Gordon was not a good match for her - he wasn't a titled noble, and he didn't get a title out of the marriage. I have not had a chance to review them. 15. Mid-Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Southern Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Governor George Popham of Popham/Sagadahoc Colony of Maine, Southern Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Abell, Robert, of Weymouth and Rehoboth, Massachusetts I: 107, Allin, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Allyn, Margaret (Wyatt), of Cambridge, Mass. 2. Do you have a gateway ancestor from a population group other than American colonial immigrants (e.g. 8. 14. Thomas is the son of John Savage [unknown confidence] Katherine is the daughter ofRobert Gordon[unknownconfidence] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120/mb.ashx, https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120.1/mb.ashx, Archibald (Campbell) fourth Earl of Argyll. When is Royal Gateway Ancestor label appropriate? Joan is the daughter of Matilda (Clifford) Sutton 19. John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [unknown confidence], 17. Philippa is the daughter ofLionel (Plantagenet) of Antwerp KG[confident] "The Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton: Quaker Immigrants to Pennsylvania" in The American Genealogist, vol. 11. Thomas had married Nicholas' mother, "widow Ide." Thanks, RJ! I'm trying to go back through these lines to see which still need fixing. 1. There is almost certainly a problem at the immigrant generation, but we will check it out. Joe, Thank you for your comment, I am a newt and can't say that I understand it all. 1. I will get to all of these potential lines eventually. Duncan is the son of Duncan M'Kie [unknown confidence], 4. Katherine is the daughter ofPatrick Agnew[unknownconfidence] According to the research, Markle, a Los Angeles-born American citizen, is a 24th generation descendant of King Edward III. Australian immigrants in the 19th century are a very mixed bag in terms of how hard they are to trace back, so I should not exaggerate how difficult they are. of William Courtney, de jure 3rd Earl of Devon not Gertrude Courtney. 22. 24. . (Rev.) 10. 9. Peter is the son ofSir Thomas Gerard[unknownconfidence] Henry is the son ofHenry Percy[confident] Katherine is the daughter of Patrick Agnew [unknown confidence], 9. 5. I do not think any of them have a line to Edward III (which is what we are looking for). But it was his sister Janet(c.1480c.1544)according to Scots Peerage v.2. (and unless my search skills were poorer than usual then there are some definite falsehoods). Obediah is the son ofSarah (Flanders) Clement[unknownconfidence] Ms Churchill, whose parents are no longer alive, says it made her realise that she hadn't lost any sense of identity by finding out this lack of a genetic connection to her father or the ancestors she had researched for so long. 10. Edward III is the 21th great grandfather of Rachael. Edward is the son of Edward Sutton [unknown confidence] They had a son Thomas but he married Elizabeth Whitmore and died in 1655. However, while Thomas Bliss described Nicholas Ide as his "son in law," this evidently meant stepson, one of the usages of "in-law" at the time. It was living descendants of one of his sisters that enabled researchers to use DNA to help identify the bones of Richard III found in Leicester. His da. 1 Descendants of Edward III of England; 2 Main line; 3 Isabella; 4 Lionel of Antwerp - Mortimer; 5 John of Gaunt. Thanks Joe already looking for Thomas and others, and added the source with the records and transcripts + translations, to the post above. But its not right. 14. 8. Sir James Of Auchinbrek is the son of Archibald Campbell [unknown confidence] William is the son of William McCoy [confident] Thomas is the son ofThomas Southard[unknownconfidence], For Edward I already added his marriage record a while ago, he had a brother Thomas also, who was a witness at this marriage, and now I remember why the name sounded so familiar. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident]. Thomas is the son ofHenry Algernon Percy KG, KB[unknownconfidence] Daniel McKayEmigrant, born Kintyre (now called Tarbert), Argyll and Bute, Scotland, no parish. Archibald is the son of Beatrice Campbell [unknown confidence] here is my ;Line and I know it's good! I don't think that she is the only person who may not have existed in that book including her husband. I will let you know though there a bunch of these I need to check out now. 14. 13. Anne is the daughter ofJames Wyatt[unknownconfidence] Thomas is the son ofRobert Constable I[unknownconfidence] 14. Edward III is the 16th great grandfather of Ulysses S. (Uncertain) 1. Benjamin is the son ofBenjamin Franklin Wallingford[unknownconfidence] Elizabeth is the daughter ofDorothy (Wheatley) Bliss[unknownconfidence] 9. Hi John, a better way to say it is that America has its own special way of defining and listing gateway ancestors that is very well-known, whereas in other countries the word is used flexibly. 12. It's partly the sheer numbers. Do you have any evidence that connects the immigrant ancestor back to Scotland? I hope the folks who are familiar with the records will make the appropriate corrections in the Lake lineage -- and help reduce our inventory of spurious royal ancestries. For completeness I think John Lightfoot-92 and his brother Philip Lightfoot-255 have a line in the latest Richardson books, which I haven't seen. 2. John is the son of Thomas Savage [unknown confidence] 8. WebHere is a Native American family's descent from Edward III: Edward III = Philippa of Hainault. They are starting to come too fast and there are not enough hours in the day to properly check them out. Leave it to my ancestors to miss the boat, as it were. Robert is the son of Rachel Beauchamp [unknown confidence] I got confused about the different lines I was looking at. 8. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] (Round 3). I'm related throughTalcott-45. Elizabeth is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[unknownconfidence] In addition various lineage societies also maintain current lists of GARDs and GANDs. 19. but Vincent will have got it from the Visitation, so it's not independent. 8. Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] Martha is the daughter ofJohn Harrison Henry[confident] 19. Henry is the son of Elizabeth (Gallup) Stephens 25. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] 6.
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